Saturday, March 15, 2014

We get Whoopi Goldberg and Barbara Walters

talking about vibrators; Mexico has this:

They do have some good ideas down there

I've been mostly quiet the last couple of days;

family stuff to do(the good kind).  However, being somewhat more free, I can now deal with the most current data dump in The Experiment:

Friday, March 14, 2014

A restraining order against the BATFEIEIO!

Bet that chapped their ass.
The owner of an Oceanside store that sells various gun parts to build a rifle from scratch refused to turn over his customer list to federal agents.

Dimitrios Karras, owner of Ares Armor, said the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agents were investigating their business, not for what they sell, but for the people who purchase their products.

More here:
Last week it was released that EP Armory was raided by the ATF. They are the manufacturer of the 80% Jigless Polymer Lower Receiver. An official statement has not been released by the company, but it is fairly clear now that this product is the key focus of their raid. Ares Armor has now announced that they were also targeted by ATF for the 80% Polymer Lower Receiver, which is not a firearm. In order to thwart a raid from ATF, which would confiscate product as well as customer records, Ares Armor has obtained a restraining order. You can see these documents directly below.

Found at Uncle's place

Yeah, you can trust federal prosecturors.

To commit crimes and ethical violations, and get away with it.
Hundreds of federal prosecutors over the past decade have committed serious misconduct, but the Justice Department has refused to release the names of the offenders, according to a report released Thursday.

From 2002 through last year, the department’s office of professional responsibility documented more than 650 infractions. Most were categorized as “reckless” or “intentional misconduct,” the Project on Government Oversight reported.

In one case, a prosecutor had a “close personal relationship” with a defendant with whom he helped broker a plea deal that resulted in a release from custody. On other occasions, attorneys didn’t turn over exculpatory evidence to defendants.

But Justice Department officials steadfastly refuse to make the identities of misbehaving government attorneys public, in essence shielding them from further reproach.
The DoJ investigating its own; yeah, they're really going to clean house...

Remember a couple of days ago I mentioned Og wasn't happy with the new Cosmos?  Well, others aren't either.  #1:
Tyson assures us right away that we are to “question everything” so we have to ask why he thinks Venus is the way it is due to the greenhouse effect — which is another way of saying global warming. Venus is almost 900 degrees Fahrenheit and the clouds are sulfuric acid. Even the most aggressive climate change models and their 20-foot ocean rises don’t predict that for Earth, no matter how many Chevy Volts we don’t buy.

... Regardless, CO2 did not cause the poisonous conditions on Venus; instead, CO2 is an effect of the poisonous conditions on Venus. Invoking the greenhouse effect when talking about Venus is like blaming ocean liners for inventing barnacles.

Thursday, March 13, 2014

How addle-brained and vindictive is Harry Reid?

This crack-brained:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Thursday accused Republicans of holding up crucial assistance to Ukraine in order to protect the Koch brothers.
I don't know what kind of diseased worm worked its way into his brain, but it's done a job on him.

Just a general thought: looking at that frame, I marvel at what John Browning accomplished.  It's a truly marvelous piece of design

Reminds a bit of how they behaved in the anthrax case, doesn't it?

...One of the key stories was that Todashev had just admitted to participating, with Tsarnaev, in a grisly triple homicide outside of Boston a year and half earlier, and then supposedly lunged at the FBI agents (there were a variety of different reports, each claiming he had some kind of weapon, but each time the report differed on what kind of weapon). But reporter Susan Zalkind, who had been friendly with one of the 3 men killed back in 2011, which Todashev supposedly confessed to taking part in, decided to explore the story more deeply, and found a variety of oddities at every turn, nearly all of which involve strange moves by the FBI.
The charges were later dropped after a judge pointed out how ridiculous they were -- but the whole thing still got Miraliev put on a terrorist watch list, caused him to miss a court date for his student visa, and got him kicked out of the country:
So the FBI had been matchmaking: They had helped the sheriff’s department go fishing on a long-closed case to find a victim and a charge with which they could pressure or detain first Ibragim, and later Ashurmamad. The witness-tampering charge the FBI brought against Ashurmamad was so flimsy that it was dropped in just a month. 

He was there for a month until the tampering case was dropped. But he wasn’t released. His student visa had expired, and he’d missed a court date while he was in jail. So he was moved directly to an immigration detention facility, and on November 4, he was ordered to be deported back to Tajikistan.
Hearing the original story, and reading through the details, I'm further reminded of the stories of how the NSA, FBI and others in the federal government use "parallel construction" to build questionable cases against individuals they want dealt with.

Remember that video about "Do NOT talk to the feds without a lawyer and an independent record" ?

Because some are honest professionals, and the others are assholes with a federal ID who don't care about right, wrong or the law(except as they can use it).

"I am Obama!  How dare you try to make me obey the law!  I AM the law!"

That song is 'Teach your children well'...

Dear EUnuchs:

Piss off.

Sincerely, etc.

McCain is still a miserable, two-faced, backstabbing asshole.

From the Dark and Fascist State of Illinois:
An Illinois sheriff’s department is selling the guns it seizes from crime scenes, but civil libertarians wonder whether it has the authority to do so — and whether gun owners whose weapons were wrongfully confiscated are victimized by the policy.
In on such trade, the department exchanged 11 pistols, shotguns and rifles to a local arms dealer in exchange for two assault rifles, according to documents obtained by Illinois Watchdog.

Cox may have even transferred the guns from the department to himself, or vice versa. Darrell Cox Gunsmithing billed the County $1,243 for gun-related charges, according to invoices.
Sounds like he's got a racket going on.

Wednesday, March 12, 2014

The Project, Part 3

Starting with checking fit of the slide to the new frame.  Sliding it on carefully it was snug until about 2/3 on, then got tight.  Not 'not moving until you work on the rails' tight, but needed some work.  Which was a lot better than I'd expected: the description notes that they make the rails oversize so you can fit them, and I'd half-expected to have to take a fine stone and polish things a bit to get to this point.

It being this close, all I did was put some Metal Glo metal polish- it's a cream with an extremely fine abrasive- on the frame rails in the rear 1/3 and start working them together.  About five minutes later, used brake cleaner to flush it all off and then repeated, then flushed and oiled.  Now you hold it vertically and the slide will drop all the way under its own weight.  At which point I'm leaving it alone.

I'd already found that the plunger tube fits right on(haven't installed it yet), so now checked the ejector.  This has two legs and fits into the top of the frame. 

There's a cross-hole drilled for the locking pin; you mark where the pin will contact the front leg, and file a notch there, and after placing the ejector in place put in the pin.  Idea is to file the notch just a touch above the center of the hole, so the pin forces it down and locks it in TIGHT.

Haven't installed it as yet, did make sure the legs weren't too long and needed shortening, then with it in place(yes, fits tight as it should) put the slide on to see if it contacted anywhere; if it does, file and/or stone time to clear it.  Happily,

it clears just about perfectly.  You can't see it, but this is my happy face about that.

I've tried the grip screw bushings in the frame, all's well there.  This frame won't use the grip safety from the Kimber unless I cut down the spurs on the frame and profile them to fit; what I think I'll do is use a standard non-beavertail grip safety for now, and if I don't get bit by the hammer I'll just stick with it.

I've done the beavertail fitting before; not difficult, as long as you take your time: mark, file, try, repeat.  Two reasons I'm not doing it now: one is if I do I'll need to get another grip safety for the old frame, and damn near every one I can find has that speed bump at the bottom, and I don't like them; two is if the standard safety works, why not use it?  Anything that simplifies matters, I like.

I did try one more thing: put the barrel, recoil spring and slide lock on and check lockup.  Assuming I have some idea what I'm doing, looks like it'll work just right.  Which means no fitting on the barrel lugs or messing with a new link.  See 'simplifies' above.

So far, so good.  This will take a bit, I'm NOT going to rush this.  And since the big Tulsa show is coming up soon, if I need parts I'll make a list and take it if I can go.

Don't be 'that guy'

Now THIS is skeet shooting!

thanks to Mr. Henick for the link.

Besides the fun, consider it anti-drone training

Is Moms Demand Action a hate group?

“Seeing people intimidate you with guns, that’s something the Taliban would approve of, not our founding fathers, … That is not what the Second Amendment is intended to do”.
Shannon Watts, MDA

“American mothers will not allow a depraved, vocal minority to sully or smear the memory of the victims of Sandy Hook”.
Shannon Watts, MDA

“This is a coffee company that has championed progressive issues, … They’ve positioned themselves about being about the human spirit – that was so at odds with this policy that allowed guns inside their stores”.
Shannon Watts, MDA

“If people continue to be disruptive and open carry I am confident they will not let them in their stores and take action. And if they don’t we will come back at them full force”.
Shannon Watts, MDA

“The jury did their very best but they were hamstrung by Florida’s Stand Your Ground law, … The law basically legalizes armed vigilantes”.
Shannon Watts, MDA

“But in the absence of reason, the vocal minority — including Ms. Loesch and gun lobbyists — will continue to drive our nation’s gun policy, endangering our children and families”.
Shannon Watts, MDA

Yes.  Next observation:
. . . Not all insecure people are haters, but all haters are insecure people.”
“Fascinating”, I thought. This explains why most of my attempts at “reasonable” and “sensible” dialog with gun control advocates results in being blocked by whatever means the social platform makes available. It has nothing to do with me personally, or the things that I say to them – this happens to most gun rights supporters consistently and predictably.
There's more.

Ten bad pieces of internet gun advice.  I like this one:
9. You don’t need an AR-15!

If you’re ever the victim of a home invasion, you “need” about 14 miniguns, a howitzer or two, and a MK-19 Automatic Grenade launcher. Those tools are just not very practical, so you get by with what you have. Allowing people to define “need” is a slippery downhill slope that never ends well. Next time someone tells you that you don’t “need” an AR-15, ask them if they “need” a car that goes faster than 60 miles per hour, bacon or periodic bathing. We don’t “need” anything beyond air, water, shelter and calories.

Ref The Project, I should note I have both the Kuhnhausen shop manuals on the 1911, and I'm using them.  Oh yeah.
And damn, I hadn't looked at prices in a while; I'm glad I bought them years back.

Erwin Chemerinsky is what passes as a law professor in Californicated; no wonder the place is so screwed.  A couple of his hits:
California law generally prohibits individuals from carrying concealed weapons. Such laws are common throughout the United States.
Excuse me? This isn’t true in California, and it’s not true at all in the rest of the country. A total prohibition was not the issue in Peruta, it was the interpretation of what constituted “good cause” to apply for a carry license. Illinois remained the last hold-out on the issue for several years, and they recently started allowing licensed concealed carry when the 7th circuit court of appeals struck down the prohibition. How can an “expert” on the Second Amendment not know this?
From 1791 until 2008, the Supreme Court always had held that the Second Amendment means what it says and that it protects only a right to have firearms for purposes of “militia” service.
Name the case where the Supreme Court said this? There isn’t one. Even the Miller Court did not go this far. I’m not going to rehash all this, because all the relevant scholarship on the matter was presented to the Heller court, and we prevailed. This is now settled law, and Chermerinsky is on the other side of it.

Og saw the new Cosmos; he didn't approve.
If you didn’t expect this to be a Malthusian leftist propaganda piece, you should have been clued in by wingnuthead flapping his cocksocket by way of introduction to it. And the language, which was typically leftist: “Those trees from ancient forest became coal which both powers and imperils us” Sure, you monkey. In the way Oxygen imperils us. Our civilization is far more in danger from oxygen than it is from coal , but we have to point out that coal is icky and bad. 

yes, it was slick and well produced. it is already full of scientific contradictions which anyone with a brain can see, and it is specifically designed and has been rewritten to pound home the already discredited message of anthropogenic climate change. Tyson is no dummy, scientifically, but he has also fallen into the trap of providing the answers his financial benefactors want to hear.

And last for this morning, what happens when the politically-correct racists come out to play.
The invite made it clear white people were not invited.
The email read: "If you want to create space for white folks to meet and work on racism, white supremacy, and white privilege to better our campus community and yourselves, please feel free to do just that."

Tuesday, March 11, 2014

The Project: tools

Most of the stuff I need, I already have.  The one I don't is a staking tool for the plunger tube.
"What the hell's that?"
Glad you asked.  Using this schematic , you'll find #16 just above the frame

Just above it you'll see the three inside pieces: two plungers and a spring that goes in the center.  One bears on the slide lock, the other on the thumb safety.  The tube itself has two legs

that fit into holes in the frame; the holes are countersunk on the inside, and the ends of the legs are bored out in the center at the ends.  Idea is you put the tube in place, put a channel over it(that's to come), then use a tool with  a staking point to expand the ends of the legs, riveting the tube into place.  Which requires the tools noted.

Yes, Brownells carries several kinds; being a dumbass, after consulting with the Wizard of Og I decided to build them.  Dug around in the steel I still have and found a piece of 1/2" thick spring stock, and laid it out like so:
(picture to come)
Then put a new blade in the hacksaw and started cutting.  No pictures of a lot of this, as between general dirt and cutting oil my hands were too dirty to hold the camera, so written description only:
Make two cuts for the center slot, about 7/8" long.
Make two cuts at the top, to take out a notch for where the bolt will go.
Figuring on using a 8x32 setscrew for the point, used a #29 bit in the drill press to drill all the way through.
Use a 5/8" drill bit to make a hole between the ends of the cuts.  Had I been smart enough, I'd have drilled the hole and THEN laid out the cutting lines and cut.  Either way, that removes the center piece.
On the top section, use a #7 drill to open up the hole.
Tap that hole 1/4x20.
Tap the bottom hole 8x32.
That makes the body of the press.

Took a 8x32 setscrew and chucked it in the drill and turned a point on one end, then rounded the end of the 1/4" bolt.    And here it is assembled(before setscrew trimmed & pointed):

You'll notice one side of the bottom leg is relieved a lot:

that hole in the frame is very close to a cross-member; you have to relieve it so the point can reach.

There's a piece you need to go with this: rectangular piece with a channel cut on one side, it fits over the tube to hold it in place and prevent it being crushed by the press.  Used some of the same spring stock for this, and have some pictures:
Mark the width of the channel.
Make two cuts about 2/10" deep.
Angle the piece in the vise and make two angled cuts to get rid of the center.
Then used a big metal-cutting wheel in the Dremel to hog out what was left,

then used a chainsaw file that fit the slot to round the bottom of the cut.
Kept measuring depth with the caliper to keep the slot even in depth(fairly); actually made it a bit deep.
Mark the cutoff line and cut the piece off from the stock.
Then squared and leveled* the back where the bolt will bear.  Then ground the slot side to level the legs and get the proper depth, then used the file again to get the slot level along the entire length.

Used a 1/4" bit to make two, call them countersinks, on the back;

the rounded end of the bolt will fit so it won't slip.

Put both pieces on the sander to clean up all sides and round the corners, and that's it.

I'll do some more cleanup later, either blue or parkerize them(might as well, they ought to last forever.

And no, not jumping right to installing the tube; something to do first.  That's the next installment.

Get a picture with someone at a public forum, you're s 'stalker'.

Be legally carrying at the time, you 'engage in creepy fetishism'.  My CSGV and MDA really can't handle things, can they?

Hadn't heard of this before: save the dog from poisoning with booze

Remember that video 'Don't talk to the police'?

I'd say this fits under 'Don't talk to anyone from DoJ without a lawyer, because it's run by religious nuts.'
What is the reaction inside DOJ to the Senate’s defeat of the Debo Adegbile nomination to head the Civil Rights Division at the Department of Justice? According to an email sent by Acting Assistant Attorney General Jocelyn Samuels, the “sacred mission” will continue.
Their idea of 'sacred' being 'Screw with people for PC reasons, and be racist dirtbags at every opportunity'.

Californicated wants to make racist actions legal in education; some minorities are sick of it.
Olivia Liao, president of the Joint Chinese University Alumni Association, said Senate Constitutional Amendment No. 5 is racist because it allows public education institutions to give preferential treatment on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity or national origin.
State Sen. Ed Hernandez, D-West Covina, is sponsoring SCA 5, an amendment that would repeal portions of Proposition 209, which prohibited discrimination against people based on their unchangeable identities. If passed, the amendment would allow public education institutions to give preferential treatment on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity or national origin.

Not many left: Guarnere, the South Philadelphia kid who earned the Silver Star and two Purple Hearts among other decorations in World War II combat, who lost a leg at the Battle of the Bulge in Belgium in 1944 and returned home to live a productive life unimpaired by his injury, died Saturday. He was 90 and lived in South Philly.

While Slimy Harry Reid is bitching and whining about the Koch brothers,
A major Democratic donor pleaded guilty on Monday to funneling millions of dollars in illegal campaign donations to federal and local politicians, including an unnamed 2008 presidential candidate believed to be Hillary Clinton.

Why?  Because Obama wanted to claim credit, and who cares about some troops lives if he can do that.  Also, Joe Biden is a friggin' idiot.
“On May 1, SEAL Team 6, as we know now unfortunately, killed Osama bin Laden. On May 2, Joe Biden, in an unprecedented act, no let’s just call it what it is, in a breach of national security, outed the SEALs as the ones who took down bin Laden. It had never been done.”
“Within twenty four hours Aaron called home and said, ‘Mom, you need to wipe your social media clean. I mean, you need to get everything off of it.’ My son was never nervous. He was a fearless warrior. He was worried that day. Not for himself he was nervous for his loved ones, who couldn’t defend themselves.”

Monday, March 10, 2014

The Project:

Carry piece restoration

My first carry piece- hell, my first semi-auto- is a Kimber Compact Aluminum(yes, that's the actual model name).  I've had it nearly twenty years, and no idea how many rounds through.  It's been refinished twice, had a number of new recoil springs, and new sights and grips, otherwise it's as it came.  I can't complain about it: except when I screwed with something or ammo problems*, it's always worked.  Back then Kimber had a good reputation for quality; the customer service I can't speak to because I never had to use it.

The problem is the aluminum frame; the rails have worn badly enough that it will rattle- badly- if you shake it.  Still reliably goes bang, and out to about 15 yards will group nicely, but it's only going to get worse.  Talked to several people, and the consensus was "You're not going to fix that frame; get a new one."

Which led to lots of searching and swearing; for quite a while the last couple of years trying to find an Officer's Model frame(most others, too) was an exercise in futility.  'Unavailable' or 'back order', mostly the first.  Finally got word that Brownell's might be getting some in, so put in a back-order for a Caspian stainless frame.  And today it came in.

Pistol (partly) as-is.

Original frame and the new.
Yes, the assembled piece is short some parts, I'd stripped it last night in anticipation, and I'm not reassembling it for one picture.  By the way, know what a 1911 looks like with almost everything out?

The recoil spring and guide rod is on the table, extractor still in the slide, the grip screw bushings still in the frame, otherwise stripped.

So I've got a new frame, parts from the old I'm going to use and some new parts, listing to come.  The only tool I don't have that's a 'got to have' is one to stake the plunger tube into the frame, but a friend thinks knows of one I can borrow; if that doesn't work, make or buy one.

Assuming I can remember, I'll take pictures as I go.

*Had put in a extra-power recoil spring, and the practice loads wouldn't reliably work in it; oddly, it would double-feed.  Put a standard spring in and it worked perfectly with them, and the extra-power worked perfectly with carry loads.

The other was when I put a recoil buffer in.  Thing squished just enough to drag on the barrel a bit and cause problems; trimmed it, no more problem.  Finally just got rid of it.

Mr. McConnell: screw you, you arrogant bastard

Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell predicted the GOP establishment will destroy conservative insurgents attempting to unseat a trio incumbents in an interview with the New York Times published on Sunday. 

“I think we are going to crush them everywhere,” McConnell said. “I don’t think they are going to have a single nominee anywhere in the country.”
Because crushing conservatives and libertarians is FAR more important than doing it to Democrats.

Mr. McConnell, you expressed a desire to punch tea party people in the face; come try.  Be warned, I punch back, you backstabbing little corrupt bastard.

Google says "Don't be evil; and ignore the shit we do".
In a letter to an Iowa senator (PDF), NASA’s associate administrator for legislative and intergovernmental affairs admits the agency was selling jet fuel at below market rates to H2-11, a company owned by the founders of Google.

While we're at it, fire the idiots at NASA involved in this.

They want a Marlin Model 60 classed as a assault weapon

along with anything else with a 'too big' magazine.  So they can ban it.  But "Nobody wants to take your guns, you wingnut!"

Except they do.
They discovered that the bill would affect tube-fed, semi-automatic rifles because the magazine cannot be separated from the gun.

Thus, the experts found that at least 43 common rifles would suddenly be considered a prohibited “assault firearm,” such as the .22 caliber Marlin Model 60, Remington Nylon 66 and Winchester 190.

Just having one such gun would turn a law-abiding owner into a felon overnight.

I got a lecture a while back on how subsidies are 'vital to progress'; considering the lecturer is a socialist crapweasel, I told him he was full of shit.  Crap like this is a big reason why(although he probably considers this 'justice' or something).
Several nonprofits that have little to do with farming or are in poor standing with their local governments have been receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars in farm subsidies over the past decade, federal records show.

They include an Islamic charity tied to Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, a Midwestern group devoted to waterfowl habitat, and a major conservation group with few farms to its name.

We're supposed to trust the major media for our news why?
ABC, CBS and NBC have so far refused to report the latest bombshell in the IRS scandal - a newly released list from the agency that showed it flagged political groups for "anti-Obama rhetoric." On September 18 USA Today, in a front page story, reported the following: "Newly uncovered IRS documents show the agency flagged political groups based on the content of their literature, raising concerns specifically about 'anti-Obama rhetoric,' inflammatory language and 'emotional' statements made by non-profits seeking tax-exempt status."

Not only have ABC, CBS and NBC not reported this story they've flat out stopped covering the IRS scandal on their evening and morning shows. It's been 85 days since ABC last touched the story on June 26. NBC hasn't done a report for 84 days and CBS last mentioned the IRS scandal 56 days ago on July 24.

Dear Italy;

I have a response:
And, just to make the point, for your viewing pleasure,
The modern sling; deal with it, folks.

Sunday, March 09, 2014

One more 'liberal' tax hypocrite

"The rich don't pay enough taxes!  Big business should pay more!

Except MY big business, please give US more tax breaks!"
Harvey Weinstein, appearing at the UCLA Entertainment Symposium in interview with Ken Ziffren, Los Angeles’ newly appointed film czar, called for California to expand its production tax incentives. 

“There’s no reason for us not to shoot here, except when you do the numbers here and when you do the numbers in New Orleans, it is much more attractive financially,” Weinstein said in the Q&A on Saturday.
You miserable little bastard, that's EXACTLY why you do your filming in other places: you don't want to pay the kind of taxes you want everyone else to be forced to pay.

Miserable stinking little hypocrite.

You'll notice he also thinks Benghazi was 'no big deal' and we're being mean to Hillary Clinton.  Effing dirtbag(yes, I mean both of them).

Well, New York City, you voted for it and you're getting it.

Hard, and no lube

Except for the people able to put their kids in private schools of some kind; THEY'RE ok.  For now.

Realistically, this ought to count as a form of child rape by this socialist bastard.  Primarily against poor and minority kids by a rich white guy, but hey, Mr. Mayor has unions to pay off.

Let's see, Duffy knowingly acted in- at the least- a very unethical manner, stuck to it through appeals, and only after a federal appeals court bluntly urged Duffy over and over again to admit that the closing argument in the Maloney case was unprofessional, and perhaps unethical, and in any event a mistake of law did she finally act with some level of ethics(can't really bring myself to say 'honor'), and we're supposed to cheer her?  And she gets 'commended by the court'?

A: Where the FUCK was her ethics and honor when she was screwing this thing over in the first place?  She wants praise or forgiveness or something?  She ought to try ACTING IN A LEGAL AND ETHICAL MANNER IN THE FIRST PLACE.
B: As to the Gods-damned bastard in a black robe who couldn't be bothered with dealing with this AT THE TRIAL, strip him of that robe and throw him out.  Preferably from about the fifth floor.

And Duffy should be disbarred. 

You may be cool, but are you

bitten by a eastern brown "I'll have a cold one and not panic the kid" cool?
"I said to myself, if I'm going to cark it I'm going to have a beer, so I got a Goldie out of the fridge and drank that; 'cause you know eastern browns are the second most venomous snake in the world," Rod said 

Rod's teenage son was on the couch and slept through the whole thing because Rod didn't want to wake him and make anyone panic. 

"If you panic it makes it worse," he said.
Sir, if we ever meet, the first one's on me.

My first order of the day: find the creator of Daylight Savings Time

and hurt him.  A lot.

This has two good things going for it: I'll have the time machine invented for the purpose, and we won't go through this crap ever again.