Saturday, October 10, 2015

Due to circumstances entirely within my control-

namely semi-godsons' birthday- I shall now leave you to your studies while I grab a shower and fall over

CherryBalmz: there will be tests

Was told about this stuff, and picked up some to test.  Since I know someone who's planning to try out their Black Rifle Balm, I ordered the Ma Deuce Juice, since I like grease for frame rails and such.  Fast shipping, ordered it on the 6th and it arrived on the 10th.  And they threw in a bottle of the Balm.

Here it is:
Both do have a cherry-like aroma, both the same reddish-pinkish color.  The Balm is a very thick oil/thin grease, the Juice a definite grease.  Half-ounce bottles.  That white pile in front is Lubriplate SFL-0 grease(very good stuff) for comparison.  I had to use a screwdriver to get some of the Juice out, so it's a bit smeared.

Holding that plastic pad vertically for more than a minute, the Balm didn't run, it just sagged a little, very slowly; the Juice moved not at all.  Put the pad on the angled front of the desk and left it there while typing, after about three minutes the Balm had sagged about 1/8"; unless it thins a lot when heated, it's not going anywhere.  The Juice stayed right where it was like a good grease.
Added: it's been sitting at that angle for about ten minutes now, the balm has sagged about 1/4".

From the site, on the MDJ,
...a lightweight grease that provides unmatched longevity, lubricity, wear-resistance, and protection for firearms.  Its consistency is about an NLGI #0, which is roughly the consistencly of mayonnaise, only creamy and stringy- excellent for application and staying put in sliding systems.  
...robust additive package, etc.

On the Balm,
...lightweight grease appearing somewhat as a gel, engineered with modern rifles in mind, where enclosed constructions, tighter tolerances, high heat, dust, and large volumes of fire in austere contditions are a reality.  Just like Ma Deuce Juice, it stays where you put it, even in extreme heat, but BRB is carefully engineered to allow just a small amount of "flow", permitting a little ancillary movement and spread during weapon cycling.
'Gel' is a good description.  That's been sitting there as I worked on this, it's sagged that 1/4" and that's it.

Mentioned once before that one of my favorite test beds for lubes is my .22 conversion for the 1911; if the lube doesn't work well, it won't function properly.  So I'm going to clean it and the frame to bare metal, lube it up and shoot it; and I'll try both, cleaning thoroughly in between.  And I'll decide what other stuff to try it on.

Results to follow, but it'll take a while.

Parts for the project rifle;

I realized I forgot to list them.

In no particular order:
Barrel: DPMS in .338 Federal(no longer available).
Upper & lower receiver: DPMS.
Lower parts kit(minus trigger group): DPMS
Grip: I have no idea, I can't find the paper.
Stock: the A2 that originally came on the AR-15.
Buffer, spring and extension tube: Brownell's.
Recoil pad: Grind-to-fit from Pachmyer.
Trigger: Rock River 2-stage.
I have to note, the pins that came with the trigger were oversize enough they flat would NOT fit in the receiver; therefore, a set I had from Brownell's as spares were used.
Bolt carrier group: DPMS
Gas tube: no idea, picked it up from JSE Surplus when I ordered the barrel.
Gas block: Yankee Hill low profile, setscrew type.
Handguard: Diamondhead free-floating, 13".

It has a Leupold 1.75-6X scope, mounted in some extra-tall rings I had.  Yes, I'm a bad boy for not getting some really good high-dollar rings for it; these work.  Somewhere down the road some better ones will be acquired.

No irons right now.  With this optic it'll have to be a quick-detachable type, at least for the rear; the front could stay mounted.  No idea what I'll go with yet.

Picture of it as it sits(before scope):

Heaviest puzzle I've ever put together

Loudest, too.

Whole story on this later; for now I'll just note that it works

Range day

Actually, a couple of weeks ago(yes, I'm slow), with this visitor to the facility
And no, I don't know what he is; I need to see if I can find out.Daughter just advised it's a Cottonwood Borer.

Back to the range subject, big thing was testing some handloads for the .338 using the Hornady FTX 200-graing bullet.  Nice day for it; just a light breeze coming down the range.  I had four loads: 43.0 grains IMR4895, five in Federal and five in Winchester cases, and 43.0 grains Varget, five Federal and five Winchester, all fired at 100 yards.

Best group: 4895 in Federal cases
Yeah, there are three of them in one ragged hole.  Average velocity 2405fps.

Same load in a Winchester case
Nicely centered, not as tight.  Only four because that fifth round disappeared in the range box.  Somehow and where.  Average velocity 2335fps.

With Varget and Federal cases,
I had an earlier load with Varget(42.0 grains) and the Speer bullet do the same vertical stringing with quite tight horizontal spread.  That's interesting.  Average velocity 2314fps.

And 43.0 Varget in Winchester cases
 Possible I was getting a bit fatigued at this point(even with the good recoil pad, this thing does kick a bit), but I think I had a good hold on each.  Probably ought to test it again to be sure, but I hate to spend five more of these bullets.  Average velocity 2260fps.

Overall, it seems to like 4895 and Federal cases the best.  Though with a 42.0 of 4895 load and the FTX bullet & Winchester cases I got a much tighter group; maybe the Winchester does better with the lighter load?  That got 2297fps, a very slightly lower velocity, not really enough to bother about.

Ah well.  I've now got brass to tumble, and notes to record. 

Once told someone who was bitching about Rush Limbaugh

that if people hadn't thought the news being put out by the networks was skewed at best and sometimes flat-out bullshit, Limbaugh would mostly likely be(happily) a sports broadcaster somewhere.  But people knew that a lot of the news they were hearing was skewed in many cases, and far too often reported by the idea of "This is what we want you to hear and think."  Which brings me to the subject of the moment:  The New York effing Times.  "Ah, those Jews weren't actually there back then, at least they can't prove it to my satisfaction, so hand it to the Palistinians.  And hey, if the Jews weren't actually there..."

Saw this at Insty, who had this(yeah, I believe it):
[Oren] called the New York Times editorial-page editor, Andrew Rosenthal, after the paper published an op-ed by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in which Abbas startlingly claimed the Arabs had accepted the UN Partition Plan of 1947. The conversation went thus:
“When I write for the Times, fact checkers examine every word I write,” I began. “Did anybody check that Abbas has his facts exactly backward?”

“That’s your opinion,” Rosenthal replied.

“I’m an historian, Andy, and there are opinions and there are facts. That the Arabs rejected partition and the Jews accepted it is an irrefutable fact.”

“In your view.”

“Tell me, on June 6, 1944, did Allied forces land or did they not land on Normandy Beach?”

Rosenthal…replied, “Some might say so.”
Our Professional Media.  No wonder they hate people like Sharyl Attkisson so much; they're actual reporters.

"How dare you expect these people to obey your rules,

you racist!"  Etc.
A village in Germany has released a list of ground rules for migrants. The list covers matters of basic civility – like shopping and the Highway Code – to fundamental principles of Western society; like gender equality, not harassing young girls and learning the native language.
Some people online have accused the village of “racism,” however, and of indulging “stereotypes,” not respecting “German political tolerance,” and addressing migrant like “animals.” The page has now been taken down.
Yeah.  Saying 'If you live here, these are the rules all of us follow' and expecting immigrants/refugees to do so is racist.  Bullshit.

So either someone at DHS used a work computer to do personal stuff and needs a serious talking to, or someone at DHS is playing political games using the DHS system, and needs to be fired for it.

Yeah.  Fake scandal, created solely to give Clinton problems.  Right.
A trove of emails that the State Department gave the House Select Committee on Benghazi only two weeks ago show that longtime Hillary Clinton friend Sidney Blumenthal pushed his business interests in Libya on the then-secretary of state and that she forwarded an email discussing a CIA source which was classified at the time it was sent.

So, it boils down to "How dare you want your own private means of powered transportation!  You bastards are violating other peoples right not to be run over!"  Etc.

Friday, October 09, 2015

It being Friday, it getting late

(yes, I'm worn out, deal with it), and there being far more interesting things to do than read more damned news, I now present the latest batch of data.

This insanity is one reason son left the Army

And it's pushing more and more out.  When you know that screaming for help may get you a "You're within half-a-mile of that house, sorry", or that stopping some piece of shit from raping a child can get you thrown out...

Thursday, October 08, 2015

No, you can't trust the damned BBC, either

The BBC has admitted faking spectacular scenes of a volcano eruption in its new natural history series Patagonia: Earth’s Secret Paradise.

The programme, broadcast in late September, purported to show a “dirty thunderstorm” above the Calbuco volcano in southern Chile, with flashes of lighting within clouds of ash.

The scene was actually created by using footage from two different eruptions four years apart.
It is the latest fakery row for the BBC, which came under fire for another of its nature programmes, when the Sir David Attenborough programme Frozen Planet was found to have faked a scene of a polar bear being born in the wild.
Which brings up the eternal question: 'If they're faking these things, what else are they faking?'

More fakery from anti-rights people: surprise!

Speaking of anti-rights assholes*, we have this
Attention Mr. Matthews:

And go fuck yourself with a splintery shovel handle, you miserable little control freak.

Sincerely, etc.

On the subject, from Insty,
BOY, THERE REALLY ARE A LOT OF constitutionally illiterate pieces on the Second Amendment from academics lately. Here’s a hint: There’s a huge literature on this stuff. The Second Amendment wasn’t badly drafted or unclear, it was drafted by smart men who knew exactly what they were trying to say; you just don’t want to hear that. Your cocktail-party “insights” on the Second Amendment are neither interesting nor correct. This is Dunning-Krueger scholarship at its worst.


*Why yes, I am sick of them.

"Political correctness is murderous."

But the audience at last night’s debate was not part of any cynical, self-styled community group. They were young. They were mainly liberals. They were pretty cool. Some were painfully PC. And yet some of them — a significant chunk of them — cheered Bukhari’s explanation for the Charlie killers’ actions, and applauded his suggestion that my question must have been motivated by racism.
At Trinity College in Dublin
There was a political context to their actions, he suggested, but the media ignored it in favour of depicting the killers as ‘brown savages’. Every time Bukhari mentioned Charlie Hebdo, he did so through gritted teeth, with a palpable sense of contempt; he spoke of Charlie Hebdo in the same breath as ‘white supremacism’. In contrast, he talked about the killers with what sounded a lot like sympathy, presenting them as the aggrieved products of French militarism in Algeria.

In his warped worldview, it’s almost as if Charlie Hebdo were the guilty party, a foul committer of Islamophobic speech crimes, and the killers were the victims — victims of history, victims of France, victims of prejudice, driven by political anger. The murdered are the oppressors; the murderers the victims. Real through-the-looking-glass stuff.
Mr. O'Neill, it's not 'as if'; he truly does believe that the murderers were the victims.  And those PC-at-any-cost 'liberals' either agree, or would rather pretend to than not be seen as sufficiently sensitive.  Because muslims are seen as victims, no matter what; same as a black speaking of whites as inferior beings and other racist crap insists "I cannot be racist, because I'm not white and have no power!"

Except muslims DO have power; not only the power to shut down opponents by having them banned from discussions, but by making people censor their own words and images because they fear being murdered by the 'victims'.

During my speech, students had hollered ‘Shame! Shame!’ when I suggested that Robin Thicke’s ‘Blurred Lines’ should not be banned on campuses. And yet they listened intently, with soft, understanding, patronising liberal smiles on their faces, as Bukhari implied that Charlie Hebdo brought its massacre on itself. This is how screwed-up the culture on Western campuses has become: I was jeered for suggesting we shouldn’t ban pop songs; Bukhari was cheered for suggesting journalists who mock Muhammad cannot be surprised if someone later blows their heads off.
Idiots who've been taught for years that western culture is horrible and racist, etc., therefore any criticism by anyone not part of it is automatically valid.  And they REALLY get pissed when someone points out "So you're saying that people such as (in this case) muslims cannot be held to the same standards of self-control you expect from whites?"

It provided a glimpse into the inhumanity of political correctness. The PC gang always claim they’re just being nice; it’s just ‘institutionalised politeness’, they say. Yet at Trinity last night I saw where today’s intolerance of offence and obsession with Safe Spacing minorities from difficult ideas can lead: to an agreeable nod of the head when it is suggested that it’s understandable when poor, victimised Muslims murder those who offended them.

No, a PC student at such a prestigious college as Trinity is very unlikely to kill you for being offensive. But if someone else does, they won’t be outraged or upset. They’ll think you had it coming. Nice? Polite? Please. Political correctness is murderous.
Yes, it is.  The question is how many will die, in the end, because of it.

If there is anything more stupid than this,

I'm not sure I want to know about it.  This is just as stupid as lowering standards for infantry so you can get more of the preferred mix of people in.  And- since fires happen more often than infantry actions outside of open war- more likely to get people killed.

But that's not a concern to the idiots running this.

I'm not even going to link to the latest Hillary Clinton crap.  More servers, more classified e-mails, more "I want your guns!", etc.  Sick of it, sick of her.

Gov. Howler mouthed off, and is now trying to claim "I didn't say what I said!"

He's also getting rather pissy about being called on some of his current howling.

Frankly, I don't care if you are transgender. I don't care if you are gay. I don't care if you are a Hare Krishna member (but don't ask me for money at the airport). If you support gun rights, then you are my friend.

Wednesday, October 07, 2015

I've got zip.

Squat.  Nothing.

Maybe later.

Tuesday, October 06, 2015

Meanwhile, in the multi-culti paradise of Sweden,

It is supposed to be the model multicultural state. But Sweden is facing problems of its own after gangs of immigrants spent a fifth consecutive night rioting in Stockholm.

Officers are battling to keep the capital under control after hundreds of cars were torched, a police station set alight and fire services kept from a major blaze by a stone-throwing mob of youths.

To make matters worse, rioting has now spread to Sweden’s two other major cities, Gothenburg and Malmo.
Doesn't sound very paradise-like, does it?
Lars Bystrom, a Stockholm police spokesman, said: ‘Such fires are mainly lit to lure the police to the scene, who are then attacked.’

He admitted officers have been forced to change their tactics, saying: ‘Now if there is a small fire that is not likely to spread, and there is no risk to life, we will send out a patrol and keep an eye on it from a distance.

‘But we are not going to bring in the fire brigade unless it’s really dangerous.’
Hmmm... sounds kind of like what the 'disaffected north-African youths' were doing in France, doesn't it?

Several public transport routes have also been cancelled after rioters started hurling petrol bombs at buses.
That's trying to kill people, and in a pretty nasty way.
Government leaders have struggled to explain or control the outbreak of violence, but the anti-immigrant, nationalist Sweden Democrats have soared to third place in the polls. 

The party’s rise reflects the concerns of many native-born Swedes that their country is rapidly changing for the worse.
Well, the Swedish government has basically told the people 'the immigrants have more rights than you', punished people for speech that might upset someone, ignored or minimized serious crime problems; now the 'anti-immigrant, nationalist' party is moving up in popularity.  And I'll bet the upper reaches of government are more worried about that than they are about the violence.

‘We have groups of young men who believe that you can and should use violence to change society. Let us be clear. This is not okay. We cannot be governed by violence.’
Hey, they've been getting away with it, with you making excuses for them; why would they think that would change?

It's bad now; this is likely to turn really nasty in the near future.

In the spirit of "Spread the happiness around",

Ammunition to Go is running a Ammo Ambassador program:
We're giving away 100,000 rounds - that's 2,000 boxes of 9mm ammo just for bringing a new shooter to the range! So, be sure to start planning today as quantities are limited!
Here's how this works
Free ammo
  1. Find a buddy or family member that's new to firearms.
  2. Print off this target and take it to the range with you.
  3. Introduce your new shooter to firearms and snap a photo of them with their target.
  4. Send us a copy of the photo with the submission form below.
  5. We'll send you two boxes of 9mm ammo for free as a thank you for your time and energy helping grow the number of firearms-friendly folks in the United States.
Seems like a worthy program, especially with the usual suspects talking about bans and such.  The more new people get the fun of hitting the range, the better.

Ban them now!

Starting with those owned by politicians and the wealthy, personal opinion.

Wonder if this '1 in 5' will get as much attention as the bogus one?

'Sport hunting is much like lynching black people.'
Harvard charges something like $40,000/year.  To listen to idiots like this.

Well, it shouldn't be too hard to find the big factory where they're being made.  After all, we're assured by the hoplophobes that it takes a factory to build something like this.

With past examples like this, wonder what Hillary would do in the Oval Office?
Bill Clinton’s administration gathered enough evidence to send a top-secret communique accusing Iran of facilitating the deadly 1996 Khobar Towers terrorist bombing, but suppressed that information from the American public and some elements of U.S. intelligence for fear it would lead to an outcry for reprisal, according to documents and interviews.
Former FBI Director Louis Freeh told The Times that when he first sought the Clinton White House’s help to gain access to the Saudi suspects, he was repeatedly thwarted. When he succeeded by going around Mr. Clinton and returned with the evidence, it was dismissed as “hearsay,” and he was asked not to spread it around because the administration had made a policy decision to warm relations with Tehran and didn’t want to rock the boat, he said.

“The bottom line was they weren’t interested. They were not at all responsive to it,” Mr. Freeh said about the evidence linking Iran to Khobar.

Remember the parents of that girl murdered who sued Lucky Gunner?  And the wailing when the suit- rightly - was thrown out and they were charged for LGs legal costs?
Matsch had already rejected the lawsuit months earlier, citing both federal law and Colorado Revised Statute, both of which shield manufacturers, importers and dealers from lawsuits arising from criminal abuse of products they lawfully sell. Instead, civil actions must be based “only upon an actual defect in the design or manufacture of such firearm or ammunition or upon the commission of a violation of a state or federal statute or regulation and not upon any other theory of liability.” And again, per state law, recovery of attorney’s fees and costs incurred in defending against such actions from the plaintiffs is required.

“It may be presumed that whatever hardship is imposed on the individual plaintiffs by these awards against them may be ameliorated by the sponsors of this action in their name,” Matsch surmised. That means if the Brady Center, which is challenging the ruling, has its appeal rejected and then doesn’t come up with the award amount, Lonny and Sandy Phillips will have to pay it out of their own pockets.

Matsch wasn’t through with the Bradys.

It is apparent that this case was filed to pursue the political purposes of the Brady Center and, given the failure to present any cognizable legal claim, bringing these defendants into the Colorado court … appears to be more of an opportunity to propagandize the public and stigmatize the defendants than to obtain a court order,” he noted.
Of course it was for the Brady political purposes; and if you think they're going to cover this, well, those people were to be used, and if their use is going to cost... then they're on their own.

Monday, October 05, 2015

"Nobody wants to take your guns!" my ass, Part the 83rd

But now they're becoming more honest: a Washington Post editor just explicitly called for a "gun free society.
Ezra's Folly, I mean Vox, jumps on the idea and pushes it.
And you already knew about Obama and Hillary Clinton yammering about it.

Either Obama's so desperate to distract from his various mid-East disasters and the economy that he's willing to trash the Democrat Party in the next election, or he's just pissed he can't get his way on everything and doesn't care what damage he causes.  Clinton?  She's a socialist who can't stand the commoners not being under proper control.

And 'control' is the big word in the whole mess.

No, the Australia gun ban didn't make things all wonderfulness and light;

 Australian studies point this out.

Add to that that the bad guys still get guns.

Mentioned the other day that the Brit NHS has been paying doctors NOT to refer people to hospitals for further tests, including cancer patients.  Let's not forget that they've also been using the Liverpool Care Pathway for quite some time.  You know, the protocol under which some doctor decides you're too old or too disabled to be worth saving, so they leave you to die of thirst and starvation.  Out of 'compassion'.  But mostly because "You don't make enough of a contribution to society to be worth saving, so just hurry up and die."

I was reminded of something the other day over on Bookface: no matter how many times you point out the facts, idiots keep insisting "NO BACKGROUND CHECKS AT GUN SHOWS!  NO BACKGROUND CHECK TO BUY GUNS ON THE INNERNETS!" 


Sunday, October 04, 2015

Apparently there's no actual crime left in Greenwich,

so clowns like Detective Kurdish have time to screw around with people because they don't have the right political views.

'Community service organization' my ass, you're supposed to be PEACE OFFICERS, which duties do not include tattling on people.  Jackass.

In the multicultural paradise of Sweden, it's actually not paradise.  At least not for native Swedes.  Though the government and cultural elites don't care.  Among other slight problems,
Now, Swedes see the welfare system failing them. More and more senior citizens fall into the "indigent" category; close to 800,000 of Sweden's 2.1 million retirees, despite having worked their whole lives, are forced to live on between 4,500 and 5,500 kronor ($545 - $665) a month. Meanwhile, seniors who immigrate to Sweden receive the so-called "elderly support subsidy" -- usually a higher amount -- even though they have never paid any taxes in Sweden.

Worse, in 2013 the government decided that people staying in the country illegally have a right to virtually free health and dental care. So while the destitute Swedish senior citizen must choose between paying 100,000 kronor ($12,000) to get new teeth or living toothless, a person who does not even have the right to stay in Sweden can get his teeth fixed for 50 kronor ($6).
"Hi, I'm wondering, why is the government quiet about such an awful incident? The whole summer has been characterized by extreme violence, shootings, knifings and explosions. The government needs to take vigorous action so we can feel safe."
"Hi Stefan, why don't you, as our Prime Minister, react more against all the violence that is escalating in our country? [Such as] the double murder at IKEA in Västerås. Add to that the bombings and other things happening in Malmö. Instead of torchlight processions against racism, we need a Prime Minister who speaks out against the violence, who says that it's wrong no matter which ethnic group is behind it or at the receiving end of it.
Letters and e-mails get a "We heard you, now stop annoying us" form response.  That's going over well.

And now lots and lots more 'refugees' are heading there.  It's been bad before, it's worse now, and it's going to get a LOT worse before it gets better.  Assuming it does.

"If we get rid of guns, it'll all be GREAT!"

Not so much.
An attack by knife-wielding men at a railway station in Kunming in south-west China has left at least 29 dead, the state news agency Xinhua says. 

Another 130 people were wounded in what authorities said was a "premeditated, violent terrorist attack".

Let's see... mock people for believing 'conspiracy theories' about banning guns after you spoke approvingly of countries that banned guns and had mass confiscations.  Yeah, that's a winner.

Higher Education at Yale
When rioters take territory and loot, they are revealing precisely how, in a space without cops, property relations can be destroyed and things can be had for free[…]

But why is it bad to grab an opportunity to improve well-being, to make life better, easier, or more comfortable? Or, as Hannah Black put it on Twitter: “Cops exist so people can’t loot ie have nice things for free so idk why it’s so confusing that people loot when they protest against cops” [sic]. Only if you believe that having nice things for free is amoral, if you believe, in short, that the current (white-supremacist, settler-colonialist) regime of property is just, can you believe that looting is amoral in itself.
People are paying how much per year for their kids to be indoctrinated with this shit?

Government-controlled health care:

Does this count as a form of death panel, or just greed("Doctors, decide who you think is worth saving, and get a bonus!")?
Ministers have been urged to ban schemes which pay GPs financial bonuses for reducing referrals to hospital – including cases of suspected cancer.

The calls come amid growing criticism of the NHS initiatives, which doctors have described as “abhorrent, risky and misguided.”

Labour’s new shadow health secretary Heidi Alexander last night called on ministers to “review the impact and extent” of these schemes “as a matter of urgency”. 
The 'impact' is people dying because the doctor got a bonus to NOT refer them for testing.  Got to keep those hospital costs down for the good of all, y'know.

An investigation yesterday revealed that practices are being paid up to £11,000 under schemes to reduce referrals to hospitals, some of which involve cutting referrals for suspected cancer.
That's just wonderful, isn't it?  "Cheaper to pay doctors to decide who dies than to treat those people, after all."
The schemes appear to fly in the face of a recently announced NHS Cancer Strategy, which promised an 80 per cent increase in tests for cancers, in a bid to improve survival Research by Pulse magazine has revealed nine parts of the country offering such schemes.
Apparently the other parts are offering the "Who is worth saving?" payments.

They include NHS North-East Lincolnshire CCG, which is offering the average practice the equivalent of more than £6,000 to reduce outpatient referrals - including urgent cancer referrals - to the same level as the 25 per cent of practices with the lowest referral rates in 2014/15.
I repeat: wonderful, isn't it, what we have to look forward to?

Of course, it's insisted that this isn't a REAL problem...
A spokeswoman insisted that the figures quoted were the absolute maximum a practice could earn, and that in order to show significant improvements, they would have to completely overhaul how patients were managed.
"It's not a real problem, that's just the MAXIMUM a practice can earn for leaving people to a miserable death."
Dame Barbara Hakin, national director for commissioning operations at NHS England, said: "The number of patients referred to hospital for urgent cancer checks is up by over 600,000 over the past five years, and we now want it to go up even more, so as to diagnose suspected cancers earlier.
Assuming the number quoted is correct, and the intent, why the hell pay doctors NOT to refer patients?
"NICE has set out evidence based guidelines for when patients should be referred, and no CCG incentive scheme should in anyway cut across that. We are in touch with each of the CCGs mentioned to ensure that this is very clearly communicated to all practices.”
'no scheme SHOULD cut across that'... so why the hell are you PAYING DOCTORS NOT TO REFER PATIENTS IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Bloody hell.