HOW did this get missed with the claimant loaded the magazine? Heck, the pic could have been a "set-up" by simply using the empty box and a new, unprimed case. Just sayin'. I long ago came up with my " Algorithm of everything" which is simple. Don't blink, you may miss it. EVERYTHING ANYONE TELLS YOU IS EITHER TRUE OR FALSE. Sometimes false by intention, sometimes by false belief on the part of the teller. Something that is only partly true is false. Ask any (real) college Professor who has written a final exam. To be true, something must be entirely true. I frankly look at everything I stuff in a magazine. Just Saying.
I've known lots of people who just grab some cartridges and stuff them into the mag, not everyone looks every round over.
And I've seen a couple of other cartridges right out of a box with this, and a few with no flash hole. So yeah, it does happen. Especially when everyone is pushing production as fast as they can to try to catch up.
I have a box of 500 rds Remington Golden bullet .22 Long Rifle that 1 in 10 have no powder in them. Remington was like you and didn't believe me and wouldn't send me a new box or reimburse me. I'll never buy their products again because of their failure to make it right. Would you like some... I can send it to you?
When you consider the insane number of rounds being manufactured on a daily basis it's actually a wonder more mistakes like this don't occur. This is likely a literal one in a million event....perhaps one in ten million. I'd say QA for ammo manufacturers is a lot higher than it is in most industries.
If you load from a stripper clip, like with more than half the rounds I've fired in my life, you don't see the base of the bullet. Factory QA should look at it before it goes in the clip or in the box, and there's no excuse not to catch that missing primer. It doesn't even take a human being - I've been able to rely on machine vision systems to catch much smaller defects in electronics assemblies for over a decade.
As for the no-powder rounds, don't they weigh the bullets? Even just weighing the filled box should flag a defect when it's short by all the powder in one round. This sounds less like an undetected defect and more like a strung-out employee shutting off the alarm and letting known defects go by.
From what I've seen, every manufacturer has sensors set up to look for this kind of thing; pretty sure this is a case of a blip during the process. Considering the speed at which they're making the stuff, occasionally a defect is going to make it through. We've been seeing problems in some ammo from various makers.
Had one a few weeks ago, round had no flash hole(and yes, it was Winchester white box) and a primer; the primer blew out of the pocket and tied the works up. Happily, no damage.
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HOW did this get missed with the claimant loaded the magazine? Heck, the pic could have been a "set-up" by simply using the empty box and a new, unprimed case. Just sayin'. I long ago came up with my " Algorithm of everything" which is simple. Don't blink, you may miss it. EVERYTHING ANYONE TELLS YOU IS EITHER TRUE OR FALSE. Sometimes false by intention, sometimes by false belief on the part of the teller. Something that is only partly true is false. Ask any (real) college Professor who has written a final exam. To be true, something must be entirely true.
I frankly look at everything I stuff in a magazine. Just Saying.
I've known lots of people who just grab some cartridges and stuff them into the mag, not everyone looks every round over.
And I've seen a couple of other cartridges right out of a box with this, and a few with no flash hole. So yeah, it does happen. Especially when everyone is pushing production as fast as they can to try to catch up.
I have a box of 500 rds Remington Golden bullet .22 Long Rifle that 1 in 10 have no powder in them. Remington was like you and didn't believe me and wouldn't send me a new box or reimburse me. I'll never buy their products again because of their failure to make it right. Would you like some... I can send it to you?
When you consider the insane number of rounds being manufactured on a daily basis it's actually a wonder more mistakes like this don't occur. This is likely a literal one in a million event....perhaps one in ten million. I'd say QA for ammo manufacturers is a lot
higher than it is in most industries.
You handle every cartidge. Shut the TV off and watch what you are doing."Opps" can get you killed.
lets hope the all the IRS ammo they stock piled is missing its primer.
If you load from a stripper clip, like with more than half the rounds I've fired in my life, you don't see the base of the bullet. Factory QA should look at it before it goes in the clip or in the box, and there's no excuse not to catch that missing primer. It doesn't even take a human being - I've been able to rely on machine vision systems to catch much smaller defects in electronics assemblies for over a decade.
As for the no-powder rounds, don't they weigh the bullets? Even just weighing the filled box should flag a defect when it's short by all the powder in one round. This sounds less like an undetected defect and more like a strung-out employee shutting off the alarm and letting known defects go by.
From what I've seen, every manufacturer has sensors set up to look for this kind of thing; pretty sure this is a case of a blip during the process. Considering the speed at which they're making the stuff, occasionally a defect is going to make it through. We've been seeing problems in some ammo from various makers.
Had one a few weeks ago, round had no flash hole(and yes, it was Winchester white box) and a primer; the primer blew out of the pocket and tied the works up. Happily, no damage.
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