You know, I wouldn't get so pissed at leftists and 'progressives'

if they were somewhat consistent on rights; they bitched and screamed bloody murder at intelligence tapping in on phone calls going OUT of the country to KNOWN numbers for terrorists/contacts(violation of speech, privacy, etc.), but when it comes to gun owners just being on a secret list, should be enough to remove that right from you forever.

Every time I hear some damned politician/gun bigot yelling "You want terrorists to be able to buy guns!" I very much want to ask "You mean that being on a list
You don't know if you're on,
They won't tell you if you ask if you're on,
If you are on it they won't tell you why, and
They won't tell you how to get off it
is enough to take away one of your basic rights?"

I really am effing sick of these people.

Let me add in, flat-out damned liars:
...This is funny:

6.To the people who categorized us as “gun grabbers” I suspect that you did not see the following on the home page of our website:

Sane gun laws will simultaneously protect the Second Amendment right of the legal gun owner and the non-gun owner’s rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as written in the Declaration of Independence.

Well this is also on their site:

Any sane gun law will lead to the government being able to take your guns away.

But they're not 'gun grabbers'. No, not at all. What they also are is nuts.