Friday, November 27, 2009

And here in the US, we have wilfull blindness to the facts revealed

in the ECU documents:
Obama administration climate czar Carol Browner on Wednesday rejected claims that e-mails stolen from a British university show that climate scientists trumped up global-warming numbers, saying she considers the science settled.

"I'm sticking with the 2,500 scientists. These people have been studying this issue for a very long time and agree this problem is real," said Ms. Browner, whom President Obama has tapped as his chief of policy on global warming.
And you want a blunt demonstration of "We'll do it because we want to, screw the facts",
Ms. Browner said the only people who still doubt global warming is happening and that humans are to blame are "a very small group of people who continue to say this isn't a real problem, that we don't need to do anything."
'A very small group' of one hell of a lot of scientists who've been arguing against this crap for years, but they're not saying the right things so they're 'deniers' and not to be listened to.

Especially by power-hungry politicians.

She also said the e-mails are only trickling out, and that the entire set hasn't been released.
Uh, you mean the whole damn set that's been available online for a while? Why, Ms. Browner, a flat-out lie?(another, that is)
Ms. Browner initially shrugged when asked about the e-mails, saying she didn't have a reaction. But when a reporter followed up, she said she will stick with the consensus of the 2,500 climate scientists on the International Panel on Climate Change who concluded global warming is occurring and is most likely being pushed by human actions.
Hey, her boss is planning to shed the Obama Light on Copenhagen to bring healing to the world; we expect a clown bureaucrat with desire for authority to say anything else?


Keith said...


Would you, or anyone you know pay new taxes or submit to new restrictions on the basis of the CRU's fiddled graph?

(don't put the answer in writing!)

- let's see them be-little and dismiss the next round of tea parties - from the safety of a "green zone" (pun intended).

I just hope MVB gets that book of his finished and published soon.

Marja said...

I'm not surprised about what's on those emails.

This has been studied a long time = a few decades, which actually isn't long when it comes to natural sciences.

The scientists are sure = yes, sure that they will lose their jobs/their funding/their prestige if they admit to faults in their research/scarce data/personal doubts.

When you get 'consensus' in a natural science which studies something so chaotic as climate after only a couple of decades (or less), things start to smell badly, mostly of office/universe politics.

The worst part maybe that scandals like this do, perhaps, at least in the long run, erode people's trust in science. Sometimes the wolf will turn out to be real. Hell, in the worst case it might even turn out to be real in this case, in the long run, but since the people who based their careers on studying it decided to exaggerate their results because they thought the real results were not good enough to get them the funding and the prestige they wanted, well, will anybody listen anymore if, after a few more decades of study, it turns out to be so?

Anonymous said...

They try to raise my taxes based on this bullshit, and I'll go to war, literally.


Keith said...

The Geek has a good quote