Saturday, July 20, 2013

Yes, let's do remember this case

and the way that the media that can't get enough of the Martin/Zimmerman case mostly ignored this one.
It's ugly, there's no question about what happened, but it was committed by five black thugs on a white man and a white woman, so the media that can't get enough of a white Hispanic and a 'black child' didn't want to report it.  Or talk about it.  Or admit it happened.


For those people(effing idiots all) who want to make it easier to convict someone:
A key constituency seeking to roll back stand your ground in the Florida legislature is prosecutors, whose interests just might not be fully congruent with those of the people they prosecute.
Yeah, we REALLY want to give them even more power.
Tell you what, guys: We'll consider that if you give up qualified immunity. How's that for a trade?
Although critics insist that stand your ground leads to racially disparate effects, the Tampa Bay Times, a paper that has been highly critical of the law, concedes its in-depth investigation "found no obvious bias in how black defendants have been treated" under the law. 

It also quoted Alfreda Coward, a black Fort Lauderdale lawyer "whose clients are mostly black men," as saying it had sometimes worked to the advantage of her clients facing charges over altercations. "Let's be clear," Coward told the paper, "this law was not designed for the protection of young black males, but it's benefiting them in certain cases."
It was not 'designed' for young WHITE males, either, Coward; it was designed for THE PEOPLE OF FLORIDA(effing moron lawyers; did he think- ah, never mind).

And, what REALLY needs to be done:
If you're looking for things that really went wrong in the Zimmerman case and are part of wider patterns unfavorable toward minorities, try looking at the prosecution's misdeeds.
Oh HELLS yeah.
Of course, they also need to look at a lot of the media who helped whip this into the frothy mess it became, but they don't mention that.

"I'm no legal expert,"...

You're not big on paying attention to facts, either.  One more 'SYG laws contributed to/caused the death of a child, also racial profiling!!' pile.
Found at Sebastian's.



And no, it's way PAST time to stop this crap.

The Evict Lyme raffle

over at Jennifer's.
It's a fundraiser for a good cause.  And I should have posted on this sooner; my apologies for my brain malfunction.
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About Obama's address on the Zimmerman trial

Looking over at Althouse, she had a link to this piece at TalkLeft; they're not happy with the address, and lay out why.  I'm going to pull a few things:
The most objectionable part of his comments: Not once did he express any empathy for George Zimmerman, the man who was acquitted who spent the past 16 months under the cloud of criminal charges, and who continues to have a target on his back.
The problem there is that Obama and Holder worked hard to help PUT that target there; why would he display any empathy for someone he helped try to destroy?


I am very disappointed that the President has chosen to endorse those who have turned a case of assault and self-defense into a referendum on race and civil rights. And that he is using it to support those with an agenda of restricting gun rights.
You and us both.
The President, like so many others, refuses to acknowledge that George Zimmerman had no avenue of retreat from the beating Martin was inflicting on him. Zimmerman would have prevailed on self-defense without a stand your ground law. The only additional element a stand your ground law adds to traditional self-defense is the elimination of a duty to retreat if one is available.
Hey, he's worked hard helping make this case about race and gun ownership; what else would he endorse?
And if he acknowledged that Zimmerman was caught between a rock and a hardcase, he'd be causing problems for Sharpton and Jackson and the NBP and Holder; and he's not going to do that, no matter what.*  Again- especially through the DoJ- he's worked to change the case from what it was to what it became: from a local case of a self-defense killing to a national mess involving race and SYG laws and gun laws, so he's not going to say anything to cause a problem for his preferred narrative.


As a former Constitutional law professor, I would expect our President to acknowledge that the purpose of a criminal trial is not to send messages to the American public. It is merely to test the Government's evidence: Did the state prove guilt and disprove self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt.
Problem: for Obama EVERYTHING is about sending a message.  Which I think is why he went into the 'We need to redo/get rid of these SYG laws'; he doesn't like them(he doesn't like the peasants having arms in the first place), he wishes he could get rid of them, so here's his chance to Send His Message!
He knows SYG had not a damn thing to do with this trial; he doesn't care.  "I can send my message now!" is all that counts.


One more thought: This gave Obama a chance to do what he really likes doing: Make this about me.  'He could have been my son' before, now it's 'He could be me!'


And something I think we can all agree with:
It is unfortunate that Trayvon Martin lost his life, but he was wrong to use his fist and the cement as a weapon and attack George Zimmerman. Changing the law is not an appropriate response when the state failed to prove Zimmerman had an alternate means to extricate himself from the danger. Suggesting that someone being beaten should wait for a fatal or near-fatal blow before defending himself makes no sense.



*Considering Obama, if something came up/came out which caused him to decide that throwing all those people under the bus would help his situation, he'd do it in a heartbeat; without that, he'll stand behind them no matter what.

I'd argue Obama didn't get SYG wrong;

he deliberately stated it incorrectly; he doesn't like the peasants having that legal protection, so- just like with gun ownership in general- he'll say whatever he thinks will help him in attacking it.

Speaking of the Martin/Zimmerman case,
Why Obama showed up to speak in three illustrations.
Which leaves out the "I must make everything about ME" problem, but still.


Gee I wonder where Nancy Pelosi gets the idea that she can bark orders at the press as if she is a superior officer in the same political hierarchy. 

Oh, right-- from the Palace Guard Media itself.  How may we better please you today, My Queen?
Also note that the same people who'd have been screaming about this from day 1 if Filner were a 'R' have done everything they could to cover it up, him being a 'D'.


Speaking of Palace Guard, the politicians in uniform ran out of ways to hide him away; wonder that other roadblocks they'll come up with to try to keep him from testifying?
However, the Pentagon has now reversed course due to what it is says was an “administrative error.” Air Force Maj. Robert Firman reportedly told the Daily Mail that Bristol was mistakenly identified as a retired officer despite his active-duty status.
'Mistakenly' meaning "We lied, but you wouldn't go away, so we have to stop lying now.  On this.
For now."


Unrelated to news, I need to make a list of ammo I need to load- practice and experiment- and sit my ass down and to it all.

Friday, July 19, 2013

Apparently it isn't only 'gun control' that politicians do instead of something;

they also try to read minds.


Thirdpower also takes note of what these bastards consider 'reasonable'
Anti-gun group states this:
we are not against someone defending themselves in situations.
When asked if a situation such as having your children being abducted in a park would be a 'situation', this was the response:
Depends on what kind of park, location in relation to law enforcement, what kind of gun, how Much ammo, population at any given time in the "park", etc.
And goes from there into their usual numbers crap and claims.

It appears that the clown who wrote the 'black kids are scary' crap

is practicing Reasoned Discourse™; I'd left two comments, and both disappeared into moderation*.  And the only three comments showing are all approving and supportive.

Ain't it wonderful?


Why do we not believe them when they say 'Nobody wants to take your guns!' ?
Experience and history.


“My child is gifted. He’s also 29, unemployed, and living in my basement” 
One of the followup statements is  He has a college education, it’s pointless for him to be out working in a retail store or some other menial job. I will be here for him until he is able to get the job he deserves.
You really should read the response; it's worth the time, I promise.


Once more, the 'terrorist watch list gun ban' raises its ugly head.


One sign of a corrupt politician: he's got the money to pay for this, but he'll steal the money from taxpayers instead.  And claim that since 'it's for the public good', that all is well.
Brina Milikowsky, a policy adviser to Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Mayors Against Illegal Guns, recently revealed that MAIG will use NYC tax dollars to push for stricter gun control regulations at the state and federal levels.
...
To make matters more complicated, Milikowsky also draws a hefty $99,000 salary from the tax payers. It is standard operating procedure for government employees to be paid with taxes, but Milikowsky devotes herself to “legislative advocacy, primarily.”






*I'm willing to cut some slack on the first, it was simply that his statement was one of the most idiotic things I'd heard in a while; maybe it shocked his tender feelings.  The other pointed out a couple of things and asked a question; dumping that was purely "I don't want any disagreement."

From the sound of this, Deputy Wiggins,

you're a damned disgrace to the badge you wear.
Breakables warning in effect.

That's when her boyfriend, Craig Dorris — a manager for a security alarm company — heard her scream and saw her drop to the floor.

Goldsberry, 59, said she had looked up from the sink to see a man “wearing a hunting vest.”
He was aiming a gun at her face, with a red light pinpointing her.
That's Wiggins.  Real nice way to introduce yourself, isn't it?
...
I asked him what happened. He said they had a tip that a child-rape suspect was at the complex.
Take note of that.
That suspect, Kyle Riley, was arrested several hours later in another part of Sarasota.
The tip was never about Goldsberry's apartment, specifically, Wiggins acknowledged. It was about the complex.
So why the HELL were you pointing a gun at her through the window, hmmm?
But when the people in Goldsberry's apartment didn't open up, that told Wiggins he had probably found the right door. No one at other units had reacted that way, he said.
So...on the basis of "I didn't look like a cop and I pointed a gun at someone through a window and they didn't want to open the door, so a bad guy HAD to be there!"...

Maybe none of them had a gun pointed at them through the kitchen window, I suggested. But Wiggins didn't think that was much excuse for the woman's behavior. He said he acted with restraint and didn't like having that gun aimed at him.
Neither did she, you fucking moron.
And now we get to one of the parts that'll really set some of you off: 
“I went above and beyond,” Wiggins said. “I have to go home at night.”
And if he happens to murder an honest citizen, well, that's the price they have to pay for him to go home, right?

“I feel bad for her,” Wiggins conceded, finally. “But at the same time, I had to reasonably believe the bad guy was in her house based on what they were doing.”
WHY?  Because they didn't open the door to an asshole who'd pointed a gun at them through a window?
Goldsberry wasn't arrested or shot despite pointing a gun at a cop, so Wiggins said, “She sure shouldn't be going to the press.”
 Fuck You, Wiggins.  She should be going to the press, and a lawyer, and the DoJ(assuming they can take time out from trying to frame Zimmerman and hide Gunwalker documents), and do any other damn thing she can come up with to make your sorry life miserable.

Meanwhile, in the IRS mess,

The IRS scandal was connected this week not just to the Washington office—that had been established—but to the office of the chief counsel.
...
Still, what landed was a bombshell. And Democrats know it. Which is why they are so desperate to make the investigation go away. They know, as Republicans do, that the chief counsel of the IRS is one of only two Obama political appointees in the entire agency.
Which explains why Cummings so badly wants to say 'the investigation is over'.



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Thursday, July 18, 2013

Obama would really prefer to rule;

anyone surprised?


Colorado state Rep. Jessie Ulibarri: farging idiot and gun bigot of the first order.
But mostly farging idiot.
“With a dry mouth and wet eyes, I angrily told him that he could not go outside and play a simple childhood game,” state Rep. Jessie Ulibarri wrote in a message he later promoted on the liberal blog ColoradoPols.

Ulibarri, who is Hispanic, was afraid his son would be profiled because of his dark skin. Zimmerman — who is also part Latino — was acquitted in the killing of Trayvon Martin, a black teenager.


Somehow, I don't think Rolling Stone expected this when they put a murdering terrorist on their cover.(NSFW language warning)


A: A lot of people really don't like it when a black man or woman goes off the plantation.
B: Does any one really believe that all those people calling Elder a house nigger is acceptable because it's other blacks saying it?

They'll scream about Zimmerman and evil whites, but not a damned one of them wants to talk about this:
Over the roughly month-long period from the commencement of jury selection on June 10 to the announcement of the verdict on July 12, the city of Chicago alone suffered a total of 61 murders, an average of 1.85 deaths per day. According to data available on the Chicago Tribune’s RedEye website, 52 of those killed were black, 43 were black males, and seven were children under the age of 18.
Because it would mean dealing with some real problems, instead of blaming someone else for everything.





On our being stuck with ethanol

This is a mess even before you consider the foibles of the source of the lion’s share of this ethanol: corn. Before the Renewable Fuel Standard set these arbitrarily high targets, the US used just 23 percent of its corn to produce ethanol. Last year 43 percent of our corn crops went towards producing the biofuel. That shift has driven up global prices for corn, starving the world’s poor and potentially fueling food riots. And to what end? Corn ethanol is categorized as a biofuel, but it doesn’t reduce emissions. Advanced biofuels produced from such sources as sugarcane and algae pass the green test, but they haven’t yet proven their commercial viability.
which is followed by a comment including this:
...In turn, this has driven the prices of ‘corn ground’ profoundly higher, such that there are now hundreds of thousands of acres in the midwestern corn belt and elsewhere with prices (as much as $12,000/acre) which are completely unsustainable if the mandate was eliminated or substantially rolled back. It would result in a farm-belt crisis akin to what happened in the early 1980′s when tens of thousands of farmers went bankrupt when land prices collapsed.

A ‘partner in crime’ in this fiasco is Bernanke, whose zero interest rate policy has allowed farmers, bankers and speculators to pay exhorbitant prices for farm ground that is used strictly for producing corn for ethanol and servicing of the enormous debt associated with much of this acreage depends totally on continuation of the ethanol mandate. This mostly hidden debt bomb probably explains why the mandate not only continues, but is possibly going to get even more onerous. There are just too many money men who have too much to lose if anything changes.
Translation: "Hey, all that money from the corn producers has a price; and you peasants are going to pay it for us."

There's a site called The Good Men Project

Occasionally some good stuff, but you get LOTS of crap, too.

Cases in point: two pieces on the Martin/Zimmerman case. One is titled "If you're scared enough, you can get away with killing", which is followed by the line George Zimmerman is not guilty because the jury decided that black kids are scary.

Which is one of the most idiotic things I've heard in a while.  Which is saying something.

There's another piece titled 'Zimmerman Not Guilty?  What Next For Black Men?' that boils down to "Black men are second-class in this racist society, nobody cares about their deaths", all the usual crap.  I'm going to borrow two bits from it:
Right now, I simply want to say, “I’m sorry” to the Martin family. I’m sorry that you will not be able to see your son grow up to become the man you hoped he would be. I’m sorry that you had to endure the frustration, pain and humiliation of a trial that should not have been about your son, but about the man who took your son from you. I’m so sorry the system failed you, and my prayer is that you eventually get to a place of inner peace that comforts you and allows you to move on. My thoughts and prayers will always be with you.
♦◊♦
I’m deeply saddened by the fact that millions of young black males around the globe will now feel invalidated, disrespected and expendable—that their lives don’t matter. Too many of them will surrender to the implied message that they don’t count, and therefore they will submit to the negative media-generated stereotypes of gangstas and hoodlums.
With both these clowns: the trial doesn't matter, the facts don't matter, it's all about race, it's all about- well, hell, you already know the list.

Do you have any idea how really, truly sick I am of these clowns?

the political, educational, social, and economic equality of all citizens

my ass.
According to author and Fox News contributor Deneen Borelli and her husband, Tom Borelli, black conservatives have been blacklisted from the NAACP's national conferences for years. When the Borellis, who are employees of the conservative group FreedomWorks, attempted to pay for booth space at this year's 104th National NAACP conference in Florida, they were told there was no room for them despite plenty of exhibit space remaining open.


Let me rephrase the Daily Caller response a bit: "He asked a question that the rest of the press corps didn't have the brains, balls or integrity(pick two) to ask, so of COURSE they're pissed off."


Waxman's really trying to run with that 'Don't let a crisis- real or pretend- go to waste' idea.


Well, it's evidence of civil rights matters related to Zimmerman; problem is it's death threats and such from Holder's allies.  So he doesn't want to hear it, and the media won't report it.


Wins in Colorado.


We're supposed to trust the IRS why, again?
On March 9, 2010, the day she revealed her plan to run for the Senate in a press release, a tax lien was placed on a house purported to be hers and publicized. The problem was she no longer owned the house. The IRS eventually blamed the lien on a computer glitch and withdrew it. 

Now Mr. Martel, a criminal investigator for the Treasury Department’s inspector general for tax administration, was telling her that an official in Delaware state government had improperly accessed her records on that very same day.
And, of course,
But the Justice Department has declined to prosecute any of the offenders. Treasury officials have refused to give Mr. Grassley any specifics on the cases or to describe the disposition of Ms. O'Donnell’s case, claiming even people who improperly access tax records have an assumption of privacy under federal tax laws.
Yeah; the DoJ respects THEIR 'assumption of privacy' but doesn't give a rats ass about the violations of said laws.


It should be a given: if you follow ANY advice from the mouth of Joe Biden, you're an idiot.
And probably going to jail.


'Research'? Is this something Holder even does?
Florida Sen. David Simmons, R-Maitland, who helped draft the 2005 law — the nation’s first — said Holder hadn’t done enough research before calling to overturn “stand your ground.” 

“The U.S. Supreme Court adopted ‘stand your ground’ 90 years ago [on federal lands] … I found it inappropriate for him to make inappropriate criticism of any law,” said Simmons, a lawyer of 36 years. “The attorney general is simply inaccurate. This is common-sense legislation that protects the innocent.”
Well, that's part of the problem right there!
And, in Florida, it's proportionately- and successfully- been used by blacks more than whites.  So, does Holder
Not know this?
Not care?
Not want blacks to have the benefit of this law?
Or is he just a race-baiting corrupt control-freak politician who'll say what he thinks his current audience will want to hear?


I'd wondered a time or two about such a camera; I had no idea the prices were that low for a good one.
And considering the attitudes of some LE and all the checkpoints showing up, that's another good reason for one.

Wednesday, July 17, 2013

Angela Corey is even more of a dirtbag

than I'd thought.
And that was moderate. When Corey was appointed to handle the Zimmerman case, Talbot “Sandy” D’Alemberte, a former president of both the American Bar Association and Florida State University, criticized the decision: “I cannot imagine a worse choice for a prosecutor to serve in the Sanford case. There is nothing in Angela Corey’s background that suits her for the task, and she cannot command the respect of people who care about justice.” Corey responded by making a public-records request of the university for all e-mails, text messages, and phone messages in which D’Alemberte had mentioned Fernandez. Like Littlepage, D’Alemberte had earlier criticized Corey’s handling of the Fernandez case.
Read it all.  Vindictive, can't handle criticism, history of overcharging.
Corey’s post-trial performance has been less than admirable as well. Asked in a prime-time interview with HLN how she would describe George Zimmerman, Corey responded, “Murderer.” Attorneys who spoke with me called her refusal to acknowledge the validity of the jury’s verdict everything from “disgusting” to “disgraceful.”

Ever heard of Ballistics by the Inch?

Skidmark reminded me of them in the comments to the carbine/pistol post.  They take a bunch of different cartridges and loads and start with a 19" barrel, then cut it down an inch at a time and check velocity along the way.

They also take standard off-the-shelf firearms and check velocity through them.  Well worth looking at.

Borrowing one table, .357 Mag, something I'd read before:
barrel length Cor Bon
110 gr.
JHP
Cor Bon
125 gr.
JHP
Cor Bon
140 gr.
JHP
Cor Bon
125 gr.
DPX
Federal
125 gr.
JHP
Federal
158 gr.
JHP
Federal
130 gr.
Hydra-Shok
JHP
low recoil
Federal
158 gr.
Hydra-Shok
JHP
18" 1718 2113 1941 1936 2072 1719 2017 1721
17" 1686 2067 1947 1907 2026 1689 2009 1712
16" 1790 2119 2004 1946 2051 1739 2044 1741
15" 1728 2069 1942 1915 2032 1708 2012 1718
14" 1691 2054 1933 1897 2017 1732 1993 1715
13" 1682 2024 1916 1885 1979 1674 1984 1687
12" 1725 1994 1851 1858 1945 1654 1934 1679
11" 1667 1978 1814 1831 1973 1643 1922 1671
10" 1619 1943 1802 1804 1943 1630 1922 1638
9" 1615 1901 1745 1779 1881 1563 1812 1586
8" 1600 1851 1717 1728 1817 1570 1810 1593
7" 1578 1784 1671 1682 1784 1516 1765 1536
6" 1461 1715 1580 1648 1702 1465 1662 1485
5" 1377 1614 1493 1552 1571 1373 1586 1402
4" 1286 1496 1394 1471 1511 1293 1453 1332
3" 1109 1257 1172 1271 1255 1102 1194 1122
2" 928 904 911 1050 949 858 919 914

Notice something?  All loads are faster from a 16" barrel than a 18".  I'd read that most pistol cartridges give maximum velocity from a barrel 16-18" long; beyond that you actually lose velocity due to the pressure no longer being able to overcome the friction of bullet to barrel.  In this case all but one load loses some velocity in that extra 2".

Tuesday, July 16, 2013

If you could hear frequencies that low,

a volcano building to an eruption would sound something like this:

Zimmerman should change his name to Dreyfus

so as to be as close as possible to the historical parallel.
Barbara Arnwine, president and executive director of the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law told the Orlando Sentinel that the DOJ had held a Monday conference call “calling on us to actively refer anyone who had any information” that would help build a case against Zimmerman. "They said they would very aggressively investigate this case,” Arnwine stated.
Eric Holder is a corrupt, bigoted, lying son of a bitch who's destroying the DoJ; who's going to trust ANYONE connected with it after the crap he has- and hasn't- done?

And why would anyone trust it?

Those 78 skills

With an asterisk behind those I can do/have done, a question mark behind those I'm iffy on.  I'm not counting anything where I have some idea but have never actually done it.
  1. Drive a stick shift  *
  2. Swim  I
  3. Start a fire without matches or a lighter  *
  4. Build a garden  *
  5. Use herbal remedies  ?
  6. Produce beer/wine
  7. Build your local community
  8. Tan leather   *
  9. Cure/smoke meat  
  10. Make soap  
  11. Construct animal/fish traps   *
  12. Make activated charcoal
  13. Survive hypothermia   *
  14. Properly load a backpack   ?
  15. Conduct basic repairs (home, auto, equipment, etc.)   *
  16. Operate a ham radio
  17. Defend yourself without a weapon   *
  18. Identify surveillance
  19. Build a rainwater collection system  
  20. Weld   *
  21. Accurately fire an arrow   ?
  22. Dehydrate food  *
  23. Construct snowshoes   *
  24. Build a raft with a tarp
  25. Navigate using the stars
  26. Right an overturned raft
  27. Build with stone/brick (basic masonry)   *
  28. Cut down a  tree with an ax   *
  29. Forage for food   ?
  30. Sew and/or make clothing   *
  31. Pilot a boat   ?
  32. Shoot a firearm accurately   *
  33. Find water   ?
  34. Utilize camouflage
  35. Construct a pond
  36. Can food   ?
  37. Ski
  38. Dig a latrine   *
  39. Build with wood (basic carpentry)   *
  40. Determine authenticity of gold and silver
  41. Rappel   ?
  42. Follow a trail/tracking   ?
  43. Use less-lethal weapons (baton, stun gun, pepper spray, etc.)   ?
  44. Metal working (blacksmith)   *
  45. Lose a tail
  46. Operate power tools   *
  47. Construct a splint   ?
  48. Open a can without a can opener
  49. Drive a motorcycle   *
  50. Construct a net   ?
  51. Identify animals by tracks and/or scat   ?
  52. Patch a tire   *
  53. Reload ammunition   *
  54. Build a bow and arrow   ?
  55. Administer first aid   *?
  56. Identify venomous snakes   *
  57. Accurately fire a slingshot   ?
  58. Make candles
  59. Raise fish (for food)
  60. Distill water/alcohol
  61. Hot wire a car
  62. Cook without a stove   *
  63. Survive heat injuries
  64. Raise livestock
  65. Find tinder   *
  66. Create fertile soil   *
  67. Make charcloth   *
  68. Properly store food   ?
  69. Survive a riot   ?
  70. Sharpen a knife   *
  71. Butcher livestock   ?
  72. Purify water   *
  73. Make leather products (sheathes, holsters, boots, etc.)   *
  74. Hunt and fish   *
  75. Cast bullets   *
  76. Maintain a bee hive
  77. Use hand tools   *
  78. Tie a knot   *
That's a LOT more than I expected to find even counting the 'iffy' ones.  Speaking of which:
I remember some bits & pieces about herbal stuff; I need to read up on that.
Been a looong time since I did any backpacking, need to brush up on that.
Used to be a decent archer; between time/location/joint problems, WAY out of practice.
Foraging and boat piloting I've done, but again, badly out of practice.
Number of things I've done/been part of, but long enough ago I have a lot of holes in my knowledge of, and need to brush up on.  Especially first-aid, though I have tried to stay caught-up on some things there; more reading in my future.




Back to the pistol-cartridge carbines thing Updated

Ran across this the other day, and it includes this table comparing each cartridge from pistol and from carbine:
Terminal Performance Comparison
Load Gun MV (fps) EXP (inches) RW (grains) PEN (inches)
9 mm 124-grain Speer Gold Dot Pistol 1,182 (50) .71 124 13.25
9 mm 124-grain Speer Gold Dot Carbine 1,352 .45 107 17.50
9 mm Federal 115-grain JHP Pistol 1,117 (59) .57 114 14.50
9 mm Federal 115-grain JHP Carbine 1,318 .50 70 16.00
.40 S&W 155-grain Speer Gold Dot Pistol 1,222 (58) .72 155 14.00
.40 S&W 155-grain Speer Gold Dot Carbine 1,458 .75 140 14.50
.40 S&W 155-grain Winchester SilverTip Pistol 1,209 (84) .76 155 10.25
.40 S&W 155-grain Winchester SilverTip Carbine 1,459 .82 145 12.75
.45 ACP 185-grain Speer Gold Dot Pistol 1,080 (59) .72 185 14.00
.45 ACP 185-grain Speer Gold Dot Carbine 1,279 .68 160 14.75
.45 ACP 165-grain Cor-Bon +P JHP Pistol 1,264 (89) .78 68 10.25
.45 ACP 165-grain Cor-Bon +P JHP Carbine 1,633 NA NA 5.75
.45 ACP 145-grain Glaser Silver Safety Slug Pistol 1,362 (41) NA NA 7.00
.45 ACP 145-grain Glaser Silver Safety Slug Carbine 1,617 NA NA 8.00

Most of them the carbine gets ~200fps advantage except the Cor-Bon +P, which gained 369fps.

Update: Skidmark reminded me of this site: Ballistics by the Inch.  They take a bunch of different cartridges and loads and start with a 19" barrel, then cut it down an inch at a time and check velocity along the way.
They also take standard off-the-shelf firearms and check velocity through them.  Well worth looking at.