tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8515829.post384990178126558289..comments2024-03-29T04:46:42.596-07:00Comments on Irons in the Fire: Tis the season for the weenies to whine about the useFirehandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04562365951182027709noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8515829.post-32479272701037432632008-08-14T20:41:00.000-07:002008-08-14T20:41:00.000-07:00I'd never heard that before about Hirohito's surre...I'd never heard that before about Hirohito's surrender. It wasn't a surrender, it was a politician's apology. "I'm sorry if anyone took offense at our reasonable defensive measures taken at Pearl Harbor in 1941. . .<BR/><BR/>But, the document signed on the deck of the Mighty Mo was a Settlement Document to end all settlement documents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8515829.post-19250695386264713742008-08-11T12:00:00.000-07:002008-08-11T12:00:00.000-07:00If the bombs had been ready a couple of years earl...If the bombs had been ready a couple of years earlier, tens of millions of lives could have been saved!<BR/><BR/>The Ruhr and Berlin could have been levelled, precipetating a German collapse before Stalin had had a chance to advance so far into Europe.<BR/><BR/>Was it 20 Million deaths following on his orders in the area his forces occupied?<BR/><BR/>An earlier Japanese surrender under threat of nuking would have left Mao with less time to establish in China and left the nationalists (fascist scum that they were, they were less murderous than the reds) stronger and better able to contain Mao, who's forces did not fight the Japanese. <BR/><BR/>Mao and his criminal scum murdered about 75 Million. <BR/><BR/>Mao's and Stalin's successors continue their murdering in Tibet, East Turkestan, Nepal, Georgia, North Korea, the fiddlipines...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8515829.post-12078065483698803132008-08-11T10:29:00.000-07:002008-08-11T10:29:00.000-07:00By the way, that speech did not include the word "...By the way, that speech did not include the word "surrender", but only referred to the "provisions of the joint declaration", ie, Potsdam. It was basically a "stop fighting" order, acknowledging the impracticality of continued resistance. <BR/><BR/>Hirohito also gave his rationale for starting the war: "...We declared war on America and Britain out of our sincere desire to insure Japan's self-preservation and the stabilization of East Asia, it being far from our thought either to infringe upon the sovereignty of other nations or to embark upon territorial aggrandizement." It's hard to reconcile that with his actions in China and in the Pacific, though. <BR/><BR/>Hirohito even specifically refers to the "new and cruel bomb, the power of which to do damage is, indeed, incalculable, taking the toll of many innocent lives. Should we continue to fight, it would not only result in an ultimate collapse and obliteration of the Japanese nation, but also it would lead to the total extinction of human civilization."<BR/><BR/>Given the mindset apparent in that speech, written after Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the surrender was a very narrow thing indeed.<BR/><BR/>See translation <A HREF="http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/hirohito.htm" REL="nofollow">here</A>.DJMooreTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02987943889709227434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8515829.post-51302743645771838022008-08-11T10:04:00.000-07:002008-08-11T10:04:00.000-07:00Then there's the evidence that there were factions...Then there's the evidence that there were factions of the Japanese High Command who were willing to go around the Emperor in order not to surrender, up to and including trying to steal the for- broadcast recording of his surrender speech.<BR/><BR/>With Fat Man and Little Boy in hand, it would have been the height of callous irresponsibility <I>not</I> to use them.DJMooreTXhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02987943889709227434noreply@blogger.com