tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8515829.post2076142906308987523..comments2024-03-29T05:15:40.793-07:00Comments on Irons in the Fire: The Irons in the Fire Box of Truth UpdatedFirehandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04562365951182027709noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8515829.post-45416235626693366642011-04-13T14:41:48.243-07:002011-04-13T14:41:48.243-07:00Thinking about it, I've seen mention of .30 To...Thinking about it, I've seen mention of .30 Tok builds using Sterling SMG parts kits, converted to closed bolt semi auto only operation, and with barrels sufficiently long to count as rifles.Keithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8515829.post-6543452581139961342011-04-13T14:36:40.357-07:002011-04-13T14:36:40.357-07:00There've been a few posts in the gunsmithing s...There've been a few posts in the gunsmithing section of practical machinist forum about AR15 builds in 7.62 tok.<br /><br />The recoil impulse for tok is about the same as 9mm p, so, if you can fit the greater front to back length of a tok mag into the mag well, the existing bolts in the closed bolt 9mm carbines that were all the rage in the 80s will work, you just need change the barrel add use a suitable tok mag.<br /><br />There are threads around on filing the ridge out of the back of crappy STEN mags, so Tok will fit<br /><br />The Finns certainly re - barreled captured Soviet PPSh and the like to 9mm P. <br /><br />Apart from changing mag housing front to back length and angle, the Czechs converted their SMGs from 9 to 7.62.<br /><br />Apart from the Tok's slightly better performance on well wrapped up targets, there's not a lot to choose between SMG loads of 9mm P and Tok out of a carbine, both are into the .30 carbine / .32-20 leagueKeithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8515829.post-52000747832193351152011-04-13T08:16:41.668-07:002011-04-13T08:16:41.668-07:00My Polish commie surplus loads for the 7.62x25 chr...My Polish commie surplus loads for the 7.62x25 chrono at 1650fps out of my cz52. 87 grain fmj as I recall.<br /><br />My wish was that someone would make a carbine in this caliber. I've got a couple of "tuna cans" of the ammo just waiting...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8515829.post-52511224917875190282011-04-13T03:02:15.993-07:002011-04-13T03:02:15.993-07:00Thanks for sharing.
So much for those who write a...Thanks for sharing.<br /><br />So much for those who write about 7.62 X 25 over-penetrating and .45 ACP not, eh?<br /><br />A lot of years ago, one of the British magazines# did some target practice on a kevlar vest, I'm not sure what level it was, I'm guessing III as it stopped .357 and .44 mags.<br /><br />What penetrated the most layers?<br /><br />Bloody little .22 long rifle<br /><br />They put it down to the pointier nose shape.<br /><br /><br />#<br />Can't remember whether it was Guns Review or Handgunner, both long gone, Guns Review after being bought by a "conservative" politician (Heseltine) to silence it before a general election; who needs socialists when supposed conservatives do that?Keithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8515829.post-91390356426356033942011-04-13T01:13:57.467-07:002011-04-13T01:13:57.467-07:00Good post!Good post!James R. Rummelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04682353191833690442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8515829.post-51464664532158649432011-04-12T18:31:03.125-07:002011-04-12T18:31:03.125-07:00I'll remember!
But it'll take a while to ...I'll remember!<br /><br />But it'll take a while to get all those jugs collected againFirehandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04562365951182027709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8515829.post-75473809860042329462011-04-12T17:04:46.177-07:002011-04-12T17:04:46.177-07:00You should get in touch with us next time you need...You should get in touch with us next time you need to test loads. We have land...Jenniferhttp://injennifershead.comnoreply@blogger.com