Sunday, September 04, 2016

Wonder how long it'll take for someone to slip and call them 'useless eaters'?

Obese people will be routinely refused operations across the NHS, health service bosses have warned, after one authority said it would limit procedures on an unprecedented scale.
And how are they deciding 'obese'?  By the damned BMI charts, that's how.
Hospital leaders in North Yorkshire said that patients with a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or above – as well as smokers – will be barred from most surgery for up to a year amid increasingly desperate measures to plug a funding black hole. The restrictions will apply to standard hip and knee operations.

The decision, described by the Royal College of Surgeons as the “most severe the modern NHS has ever seen”, led to warnings that other trusts will soon be forced to follow suit and rationing will become the norm if the current funding crisis continues.
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“It’s the only way providers are going to be able to balance their books, and in a way you have to applaud their honesty. You can see why they’re doing this – the service is bursting at the seams.” ...

The decision by Vale of York Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG) comes amid increasing limits across the NHS on surgery for cataracts as well as hip and knee operations.
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The restrictions echo others made by health bosses in Hertfordshire, the North West and London in the past two years, where blanket referral bans were imposed on patients on the basis of their weight.

Last month St Helens CCG in Merseyside said it was considering temporarily suspending all non-essential hospital referrals by GPs because of financial concerns.
Makes you wonder what all will be determined to be 'non-essential', doesn't it?

Considering the clowns who put Obamacare together desperately wanted to just copy the Brit NHS, this is a fine view of what we have to look forward to. 

And can you imagine what the VA will become?

6 comments:

Dan said...

Not sure why anyone would be surprised when those who pay the bills for something create standards to keep from paying out more than they take in. And that is fundamentally what these decisions are about. People will of course scream and shout about having paid insurance premiums so therefore they 'earned it'. They would be wrong. It's not all that different than FICA/Medicare. The costs of
those programs are paid via taxes and the benefits paid are unrelated to the amount the beneficiary paid in to the system. In fact virtually EVERYONE who receives FICA/Medicare benefits gets more out
of the system than they put in. That's why it's a legalized Ponzi scheme doomed to collapse eventually.

Fat people, smokers and other such types who routinely abuse their bodies cost society far more in healthcare costs then they ever contribute in taxes or insurance premiums. Get enough of these parasites attached to the body of the system and that body will die.
The number of fat people are skyrocketing. This means the cost to care for their SELF INFLICTED HEALTH CARE DISEASES is skyrocketing.
Something has to give as that which cannot continue will not.

This is just one of the first steps in addressing this reality. It
is of course not particularly fair and certainly not politically
popular. Real world economics seldom is. But something has to be done. If not the system will collaps.

The only FAIR way is to end third party payer systems...both .gov
type such as the one in England AND the putatively 'private' third
party insurance system we have in America. Both systems transfer costs from one person to other people and do so inefficiently with a huge waste of dollars paid to these third parties. And to stay solvent these third parties MUST limit what they will pay for or they
won't stay in business for long. Since certain populations...such as smokers and fat people pose a higher cost burden they are logically the groups singled out for denial.

To be fair we make ALL healthcare a private personal issue. You SAVE MONEY when you are well to pay for care when you are not. Thus you get the care YOU can afford and no body else has to pay for it PLUS the costs of ALL care will go down as inefficiencies diminish by eliminating third party paperwork. Costs also go down because 'cost
shifting' done to pay for .gov mandated care of illegals and other wastes of skin is eliminated.

Under such a system people would be incentivized to TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES so they could use their $$$ for other things besides
doctors and medicine.

That will never happen though because the species HomoSapiens is dead and has been replaced by it's doppleganger HomoStupidicus. We as a species are clever but NOT intelligent. And as a species the one thing we are above all else is greedy. We want something for nothing and we want SOMEONE ELSE TO PAY FOR IT.

deborah harvey said...

one thing i have noticed is that there are more obese people, many of them children.
and they are much more obese than those called obese when i was young.
the stores now provide motorized shopping carts for the disabled but most using them are incredibly fat.
the fat hangs out over the sides of the generously sized seats of the motorized carts.

at the grocery store i saw one fat family, who were not so huge they were using the motorized carts, but were obviously too fat for health.
they had two carts, one filled to the brim with soda pop.

i am not svelte myself, but i have begun to feel like a midget in the last decade as the proportion of fat people seems to have taken off at high speed.

i don't know the reason.
i suspect that the kids no longer go out to play but sit home with their electronic toys instead.

Firehand said...

"What? Have people TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES? What kind of monster are you?!?"

I think a big part of the weight problems is what people eat; it was decided that fat and meat are Bad, and carbohydrates Good so "Eat lots of pasta, rice, bread, that stuff!" And that leads to people gaining weight. But that's the Official Approved Diet, so it continues.

Anonymous said...

If you have a body type like "Pajama Boy" the BMI will not be an issue.
If however you are an athlete in strength dominated sports, (have a real chest with real arms attached to it and muscled legs), there could be problems. I played football and tossed a shot put. My body type hasn't matched a BMI scale since high school.
If you don't match up with the "BMI correct" list but your body fat is 7%, do you get a pass?

Pawpaw said...

Aaand, that's what socialized medicine looks like.

Anonymous said...

The trouble with socialism is that sooner or later you always run out of other people's money.